doupnik Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Here's the start of my build, I jumped in a couple of weeks ago, but haven't gotten too far. I have the Cobra Company kit and the Eduard photo-etch exterior set that I'll be using bits and pieces from. I started with surface detail, Skuki's build a couple of years ago was very helpful. Lots of Dymo tape and patience. The kit has most of the detail, but it's hard to see. Between what's on the kits and my reference pics, I think I am close enough. mason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted June 1, 2008 Author Share Posted June 1, 2008 Hold the phone!!........Is that hand-made rivet detail I see covering that monster fuselage? Looks incredible. Was that done using a pinwheel device? I'd love to see an up-close pic of the fuselage detail and your tools.Andy Thanks a bunch, though you should see the first fuselage I started, like I said Dymo tape and patience... Yes, I used a Pounce wheel. I used the smallest one in this set, Link. I just got one of the Rosie the Riveter tools, but it will be used for the next model. I will get a close up later, mason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tank Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Hold the phone!!........Is that hand-made rivet detail I see covering that monster fuselage? Looks incredible. Was that done using a pinwheel device? I'd love to see an up-close pic of the fuselage detail and your tools.Andy I would agree. That is the biggest knock on the 53 and 46 kits, they didn't put any rivets on it. The one time it would be great to have it, they don't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marine4 ever Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 nice work on the rivet detail! i have that pounce wheel set and it is tricky! as you said patience and dymo tape. semper fi Dan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted June 1, 2008 Author Share Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) I did some work on the rotor hub yesterday. I had already done a bit of work on one, but I decided to try again. Thanks to RiddleUSMC on FineScale for the inspiration for this. I do not have many good detail shot of the rotor head, so I am more worried about capturing the busy feel. Here is the first one. This is the redo. I think I will add a couple lines to the hub itself, but I think it is feeling busier. I do not know what to do for the non-folding blade, it looks a little bare. Thanks for looking mason Edited June 1, 2008 by doupnik Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted June 1, 2008 Author Share Posted June 1, 2008 Hold the phone!!........Is that hand-made rivet detail I see covering that monster fuselage? Looks incredible. Was that done using a pinwheel device? I'd love to see an up-close pic of the fuselage detail and your tools.Andy Here is a close up. Of course, now that I am looking at a close up pic, the goofs are standing out, but I don't want to start over... I still need to do a bit more sanding. mason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted June 1, 2008 Author Share Posted June 1, 2008 nice work on the rivet detail! i have that pounce wheel set and it is tricky! as you said patience and dymo tape.semper fi Dan Thanks, it's not perfect, but the overall feel it better than OOB. When I started, I did one row and got a little frustrated with the thought of trying to get the rows all lined up and straight, but I started using a two strips of Dymo tape on each line, one on each side. Once I did that, things got easier. mason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted June 1, 2008 Author Share Posted June 1, 2008 I would agree. That is the biggest knock on the 53 and 46 kits, they didn't put any rivets on it. The one time it would be great to have it, they don't. The really annoying thing is that there are lines are on the model in about the right places, but they are filled in or something. :) mason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jose miguel Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Really excellent job...... José Miguel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VG 33 Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Hi It is really a very nice start and I love this bird too. Looking forward.... Patrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 Really excellent job......José Miguel HiIt is really a very nice start and I love this bird too. Looking forward.... Patrick Thanks a lot, guys. I'm enjoying it so far and I am trying to take my time. mason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avus Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) Holy great mother of all rivets! That's a great start! Looking forward to see your progress. Edited June 3, 2008 by Avus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjwood_uk Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 i aggree, a great start!!! really nice line work there! Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted June 4, 2008 Author Share Posted June 4, 2008 I got a little more work done. It's not done, but getting there. BTW, on the main rotor, I understand the blades are color coded, I forget the order, it's in my 53 build binder somewhere, but where specifically are the colors? I have looked around and checked out my walkarounds, but I can't find where the colors are and what they look like. MTIA and thanks for looking, mason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
53 Marine Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I got a little more work done. It's not done, but getting there. BTW, on the main rotor, I understand the blades are color coded, I forget the order, it's in my 53 build binder somewhere, but where specifically are the colors? I have looked around and checked out my walkarounds, but I can't find where the colors are and what they look like. MTIA and thanks for looking, mason Check out Landing Zone Publications. They have a really good book on the Echo (Don't recall the exact name, but nothing fancy) - I am pretty sure they have details of the color code/order for the blades. The tail rotors should also be color coded. I will look in my stuff tomorrow and see if I can get that info for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted June 4, 2008 Author Share Posted June 4, 2008 Check out Landing Zone Publications. They have a really good book on the Echo (Don't recall the exact name, but nothing fancy) - I am pretty sure they have details of the color code/order for the blades. The tail rotors should also be color coded. I will look in my stuff tomorrow and see if I can get that info for you. I have the book, but I still can't tell where the color coding is. It's probably a case of not knowing what I am looking for. I have decent pics of the tail rotor banding, so I am good there. Thanks, mason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted June 4, 2008 Author Share Posted June 4, 2008 (edited) double post Edited June 4, 2008 by doupnik Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjwood_uk Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 colors are: yellow, red, blue and black. Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjwood_uk Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 (edited) Check out this thread, post no.11 you can see the position of the yellow band. http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index....p;#entry1411342 Richard Edited June 4, 2008 by rjwood_uk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted June 5, 2008 Author Share Posted June 5, 2008 colors are:yellow, red, blue and black. Richard Check out this thread, post no.11 you can see the position of the yellow band.http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index....p;#entry1411342 Richard Thanks for the help. I will need to go through my pics again to see if the Es have those same bands. mason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rampage55 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Stunning work!!! Sweet job on the rivet detail. I'm looking forward to seeing this build progress. Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
53 Marine Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Mason, Here is a pic of the E model rotor head. Note the wear on the leading edge part of the blade and the blade extension. Normally you see that kind of heavy wear if you have been flying in a desert environment. The blades are literally sand blasted as the move through the air. Something to consider when you are working on yours. In addition, you get a pretty good idea of the plumbing. Hope this helps with the color question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjwood_uk Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 now that is a cool pic!!! it really gives an impression of size! nice one. Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted June 5, 2008 Author Share Posted June 5, 2008 Mason,Here is a pic of the E model rotor head. Note the wear on the leading edge part of the blade and the blade extension. Normally you see that kind of heavy wear if you have been flying in a desert environment. The blades are literally sand blasted as the move through the air. Something to consider when you are working on yours. In addition, you get a pretty good idea of the plumbing. Hope this helps with the color question. That pic is great, what is on the leading edge of the back blades, the darker stuff? I am going to weather my blades a bit, the actual A/C had worn blades. Here are some of my references... this one also shows the tie down. the head a close up of the last pic, are these the long looked for color codes, red circles? the tail rotor, with color bands, a little scratch building to get closer to this... the exhaust covers, I will probably be making these, but I didn't get a decent pic of what they use for the third engine. another 53E with my desired level of rear fuselage filth mason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
53 Marine Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 (edited) That pic is great, what is on the leading edge of the back blades, the darker stuff? I am going to weather my blades a bit, the actual A/C had worn blades.Here are some of my references... this one also shows the tie down. the head a close up of the last pic, are these the long looked for color codes, red circles? the tail rotor, with color bands, a little scratch building to get closer to this... the exhaust covers, I will probably be making these, but I didn't get a decent pic of what they use for the third engine. another 53E with my desired level of rear fuselage filth mason Very nice pics. As to the small color tabs by the lock pins, you are probably correct. That is one of the details that have slipped my mind over the years, but it would make sense that they would color code that part of the blade system. The blades themselves are interchangeable and are mounted on to 36" blade extensions. From that point in, is where it makes a difference due to the variance of the individual fold angles. But, what we really need is someone more current with the E. Hope that helps. As to the dark leading edge on the blade, I don't recall what they are made of off the top of my head, but I have heard that the maintenance people apply some kind of a tape to the leading edge while they are in the desert to help prevent some the the sandblasting. Maybe that is it? Edited June 5, 2008 by 53 Marine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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