Brad-M Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) I received the Kinetic S-2A kit by Kinetic, from my wonderful wife today for Christmas. I didn't have good success with their F-5A, so I hope this one turns out better. Cross your fingers Brad PS, thanks hon :)/> Edited December 26, 2013 by Brad-M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bikerider Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) Best of luck! I haven't tried the S-2, but the F16am and Mirage I built from Kinetic fought me every step of the way and used so much putty that I have decided not to build another Kinetic kit again. The CF-5a I actually built with not much trouble, but it was a mildly frustrating experience at times too. Like I said, good luck. Edited December 26, 2013 by bikerider Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Their F-5 was tricky I agree, but I had success this year with two of their Trackers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bonanza27 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Build the F-5A, T-45 and F-16 without problem. They are not Hasegawa or Tamiya, but are not bad. Currently building the Kitty Hawk JAS Grippen and find it mold technology wise to be very much like the Kinetic kits. Not bad, but you have to take some time to clean up parts, test fit and then glue. The Kinetic F-5A was one of the easier builds for me. The fuselage panel inserts on the F-5A I did insert some plastic card .020 shims in the opening before gluing the parts in place as they were too thin to match the surface of the fuselage, but doing that type of thing during a build isn't new in a lot of builds. The Academy MiG-29 and Revell Eurofighter I just finished both required much more work. A Hasegawa F-14 I started some years ago was worse yet for me, I ended up giving up on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Cheetah Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I have 3 Kinetic kits in the stash, or 4 if you include the HH-60J which is a reboxed Italeri kit, so I have no experience with them per say. Hoping I have some decent luck with the F-5A, Barak and Prowler kits. The Prowler will be loaded with aftermarket, so I'm in for a challenge either way I guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raymond Chung Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I received the Kinetic S-2A kit by Kinetic, from my wonderful wife today for Christmas. I didn't have good success with their F-5A, so I hope this one turns out better. Cross your fingers Brad PS, thanks hon :)/>/> Hi Brad, Thanks for your support on our product. In fact, I take over this company 4 years ago and it has been a tough time for me to go through all the design and engineerning tasks. The F-16, EA-6B, MIRAGE 2000D and S-2F is managed by the original founder. With the S-2 project managed by me during the changeover of the project control. So, some defect still exists because the original design. The A-6 is my first "modeling" project, which is not good also. But at least we accomplish with "accurate" shape as well as dimension. I do agree the canopy is a wrong decision to split it up. But we will rework it later on sometimes. The T-38 is my second project in which co-operation between us and TWOBOBS. At least the shape and dimension are right. The F-5A/B is my 3rd project where we work with Pawel to deliver a new "workflow" on how to make a model kit (for me). The shape, dimension is accurate, however, some people still make mistake by putting the wrong wing tank into the mold. We fixed that in the F-5B already. The canopy issue is also "new" to me and from now on, only single runner are allowed in the clear parts. It come to a long way for me to take over the company from the original founder where I personally does not have tool making background. As you can see the KFIR, ALPHA JET is the "2nd generation" product from the "new workflow". As you can see from tooling starting in 2013, we have a "larger" sprue with fewer sprue to "deliver" the model. This is measure to maintain the cost down. The coming FOUGA will be our "3rd generation" engineerning design and you will see a more different tooling quality. Thinner sprue gate, better fit as we want to have the kit made with minimum putty. The HARRIER FA2 and next big project F/A-18 will have "4th Generation" tooling where it reveal a new chapter at Kinetic in 2014. At last, thank you for all your support and we will constantly improve our quality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonSS3 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Than you for the info, Raymond. Looking forward to see what Kinetic brings us in the future! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bonanza27 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Thanks Ramond for the insight into Kinetic. If I may offer some suggestions on products - please 1/32 T-38 and 1/48 T-33. Always looking forward to your new kits and exciting 2014! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bikerider Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Hi Brad, Thanks for your support on our product. In fact, I take over this company 4 years ago and it has been a tough time for me to go through all the design and engineerning tasks. The F-16, EA-6B, MIRAGE 2000D and S-2F is managed by the original founder. With the S-2 project managed by me during the changeover of the project control. So, some defect still exists because the original design. The A-6 is my first "modeling" project, which is not good also. But at least we accomplish with "accurate" shape as well as dimension. I do agree the canopy is a wrong decision to split it up. But we will rework it later on sometimes. The T-38 is my second project in which co-operation between us and TWOBOBS. At least the shape and dimension are right. The F-5A/B is my 3rd project where we work with Pawel to deliver a new "workflow" on how to make a model kit (for me). The shape, dimension is accurate, however, some people still make mistake by putting the wrong wing tank into the mold. We fixed that in the F-5B already. The canopy issue is also "new" to me and from now on, only single runner are allowed in the clear parts. It come to a long way for me to take over the company from the original founder where I personally does not have tool making background. As you can see the KFIR, ALPHA JET is the "2nd generation" product from the "new workflow". As you can see from tooling starting in 2013, we have a "larger" sprue with fewer sprue to "deliver" the model. This is measure to maintain the cost down. The coming FOUGA will be our "3rd generation" engineerning design and you will see a more different tooling quality. Thinner sprue gate, better fit as we want to have the kit made with minimum putty. The HARRIER FA2 and next big project F/A-18 will have "4th Generation" tooling where it reveal a new chapter at Kinetic in 2014. At last, thank you for all your support and we will constantly improve our quality. Raymond - I think it's great that you represent your company the way you do, in public and with full honesty. Thanks for this message. As your new products come out, if the subject interests me I will pay attention to what others say. You do make some interesting subjects and being Canadian, I like that you do make Canadian planes. Regards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randypandy831 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 been holding off on the F-5 for awhile but very excited to tackle it. still on the fence regarding the intruder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Cheetah Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Looking forward to that new Hornet kit!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colin K Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) I've built 2 of the 48th F-5As now and I absolutely loved the kit! I had no real fit problems with the exception of the air intakes. When it comes to joining the front and rear fuselage pieces, I simply glued a piece of sprue inside the front section to make sure it was spread enough to meet the rear section, no filling was needed afterward. The S-2A is high on my list of kits I want to get as I too want to build a CP-121 Tracker for the collection. Edited December 30, 2013 by Colin K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 The Tracker DOES turn out nice...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aweber stoofan Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Hi Brad, Thanks for your support on our product. In fact, I take over this company 4 years ago and it has been a tough time for me to go through all the design and engineerning tasks. The F-16, EA-6B, MIRAGE 2000D and S-2F is managed by the original founder. With the S-2 project managed by me during the changeover of the project control. So, some defect still exists because the original design. The A-6 is my first "modeling" project, which is not good also. But at least we accomplish with "accurate" shape as well as dimension. I do agree the canopy is a wrong decision to split it up. But we will rework it later on sometimes. The T-38 is my second project in which co-operation between us and TWOBOBS. At least the shape and dimension are right. The F-5A/B is my 3rd project where we work with Pawel to deliver a new "workflow" on how to make a model kit (for me). The shape, dimension is accurate, however, some people still make mistake by putting the wrong wing tank into the mold. We fixed that in the F-5B already. The canopy issue is also "new" to me and from now on, only single runner are allowed in the clear parts. It come to a long way for me to take over the company from the original founder where I personally does not have tool making background. As you can see the KFIR, ALPHA JET is the "2nd generation" product from the "new workflow". As you can see from tooling starting in 2013, we have a "larger" sprue with fewer sprue to "deliver" the model. This is measure to maintain the cost down. The coming FOUGA will be our "3rd generation" engineerning design and you will see a more different tooling quality. Thinner sprue gate, better fit as we want to have the kit made with minimum putty. The HARRIER FA2 and next big project F/A-18 will have "4th Generation" tooling where it reveal a new chapter at Kinetic in 2014. At last, thank you for all your support and we will constantly improve our quality. Thanks Raymond for this post. It is good to know you are making progress and planning to improving you products! I have currently 3 S2Fs in progress and I believe they will be very nice when finished, but I have put a massive amount of work in each one to "dial in" the shape and general dimensions. I also want to tell you that I really do appreciate that fact that your company chose to produce this kit in 1/48 scale when others have chosen not too. The S2F is a significant airplane in Naval Aviation as well other uses internationally, it is good to have a 1/48th scale model of it available now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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