norbert Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Here are the kit boxes And I face immediately the first difficulties : It seems the nose profile is too round, should be more pointy like the Italeri 1/48 kit There seems also to be an issue with the turbine-housing/fuselage jonction at the extreme end on the real aircraft, the junction has a smooth line Italeri 1/48 is close to it Academy/Italeri 1/35 has a brocken junction line. Is it comming from the fuselage shape or from the housing shape ? Comparing to the 1/48 kit, there is also a big difference on the aft fuselage junction at the bottom : Italeri 1/48 is flat 1/35 kit is round So I will have to check tons of pics again :D I will certainly need your feeling Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Intruder_bass Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 (edited) The nose on Academy is allright. Italeri 48 scale just gives that illusion of more pinty nose because its windows are smaller then they should be. On the other hand Academy(or should I say MRC) windows seems to be bigger then they should. But the last ones are molded so that the "riveted" frame is on the clear plastic part - when you install them - nose will look OK. I did not quiet get the thing about "turbine-housing/fuselage jonction "... The main problem there in 1/35 kit is that the APU exhaust is too small and is in the wrong spot. Has to be moved a little lower. I chenged it with brass tube anyway... About the bottom part of the tail boom and aft hull. IMHO MRC kit is more accurate there too. Good luck Andy Edited April 13, 2007 by Intruder_bass Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted April 13, 2007 Author Share Posted April 13, 2007 Hi Andy, thank you for your help I'm speeking about this part Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted April 13, 2007 Author Share Posted April 13, 2007 and here a new pic to explain myself : in red how the kit is in blue how it should be Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Intruder_bass Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Oh I see what you mean. You are right. You planing to correct this? Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 Hi I'm currently studying hundreds of pics to correct the shape where marked But it seems the door mount profile on the kit does not exist on the real helicopter It is very difficult to see on pics : door is open, or exhaust hide this part does somebody know how the door top rail ends ? :wacko: :wacko: :lol: It's important to know before to correct the fuselage shape behind Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Intruder_bass Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I'll check my BH folder when I get back home. Should be something in the manual too Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Intruder_bass Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Here you are my friend )))) You are correct - its not like that in the kit. But since its almost under the exhaust and in 99% is not on sight I am not sure if its worth to correct this mistake. Thanks for pointing at it BTW - Nice catch! Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted May 2, 2007 Author Share Posted May 2, 2007 Thank you Andy. This picture showes good how it is made. On other pictures, I see the triangular rail holder, so combined with your picture, I will find out where the rail ends. I agree, it's not worth modifying, especialy if doors are open. But you know I want to correct the fuselage shape behind the rail and your picture helps me a lot to find out how is the connection Fuselage/roof in this area. I appreciate very much you shares this picture Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delta force Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I don't know how detailed model you are trying to make, but the Academy/Italeri 1/35 blackhawk has totally wrong exhaust! It is oversized and sticks up way too high ruining blackhawk's beautifully streamlined sillhoutte. This fault is almost impossible to fix without serious kit bashing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted May 4, 2007 Author Share Posted May 4, 2007 You are right Delta Force with the false angle. I will try to have it accurate. At this scale, it's important, when I see what some guys make in 1/72. The top of the roof between the exhaust seems OK in shape However I didn't know exhausts are oversized too, thanks to point it. As I have no drawings, I can only compare with photos. Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 I made a last check with the door and was not so happy with how the top rail protrude over it So I finaly decided to remove this rail. I will replace it with Evergreen profile and putty I prepared also the reshape on the rear roof joint by a saw line There will be some holes to fill :( So, I've beginning this time, ;) ;) hope I will succeed :huh: What do you guys think, should I continue here or in the In progress forum ? Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Intruder_bass Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 HERE!!! Absolutly! Very interesting thread! At least for me :-)) PLS keep pics coming! Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted May 13, 2007 Author Share Posted May 13, 2007 Ok I continue It's decided, I will do #24497 under KFOR. If I'm right, it's the 86-24497 an UH-60A MedEvac used by 57th MedCo AirAmb. well i'm totaly lost here, if somebody can explain me how this unit is called. And I must share I'm not totaly sure it belongs to this company. to rebuild the rear fuselage-roof junction, I began to grain under the saw line with my dremel : it's easier to acces. After that, I aligned the top side of the saw line Just a litle Milliput to close the holes and I will think about moving the outlets Hope I do not move to a wrong direction ;) Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 (edited) 57th MedCo AirAmb The above is for the 57th Medical Company, Air Ambulance out of Ft Bragg, NC. They fly UH-60A and L MedEvac Blackhawks used for casualty evacuation, also called Dystoffs. The 57th is known as "The Original Dustoff" since they were the first helicopter Dustoff unit in Vietnam. This doesn't sound right though since MedEvac birds have red crosses on a white square and are forbidden by the Geneva Convention from carrying weapons. Edited May 13, 2007 by HeavyArty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CW4 Erick Swanberg Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Just for clarification with the exception of the HH-60L's at Ft Hood all active duty Medevac birds are UH-60A's. There are no L models that are Medevac, the Army is cheap that way. The HH-60 at Ft Hood is the only exception. Erick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted May 20, 2007 Author Share Posted May 20, 2007 Things are going slowly forward I reshaped the top side of junction each side Then I added a tape befoe refilling the bottom side Will see how it will work and for those interested, here is a link to 57 th Medical Company Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Intruder_bass Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Turned out really good! Now I am willing to do the same on mine...after am done with Chinook. Keep the pics coming! I think you are doing really good job! at least I am really interested! Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted May 27, 2007 Author Share Posted May 27, 2007 Thank you for your encouragement Andy. I follow with interest your MH-47E conversion on FSM. I have also a CH-47D in my stash. on my build, I just opened the APU exausts holes on new locations, both sides and opened the mesh holes on the tail Small progress does any of you know the angle of the main APU exaust left side ? (before it's too late <_< ) It seems the tube is going up Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CW4 Erick Swanberg Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 It angles up into the transition section with a slight curve to the left as looking into the exhaust. Erick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Intruder_bass Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Norbert, Looking good! I see you cut out one of the access panels on port side... What else you lanning to open up? Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted May 28, 2007 Author Share Posted May 28, 2007 Yes Andy, I opened the fuel acces panel, I will show the bird refuelling. I guess that during refuelling, other panels are closed ? except doors... I bevel the bottom door rail, in order to add a U-shaped profile and added also a U shaped profile where I removed the top door rail I still have a lot of sanding, the bottom rail has to finish slightly higher well, I return sanding Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CW4 Erick Swanberg Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 When hot refueling or cold refueling, all doors and windows are closed up in case of fire. Erick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted May 29, 2007 Author Share Posted May 29, 2007 (edited) Thank you for your answer Erick. Looking at this picture, the sliding door seems half open, so I was not sure doors are (normaly) always closed image here I hope Norbert Edited May 29, 2007 by norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
empeter Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 image here I hopeNorbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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