Zmey Smirnoff Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Monino museum is getting better each year I visit it. More and more planes are being restored, and the rest of exposition is relatively well maintained. Link to post Share on other sites
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Su-34 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Brings back warm memories.. Thank you for posting these pics! And next time i will bring my digital camera Link to post Share on other sites
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Cobrahistorian Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 What's the XB-70-lookin thing? Link to post Share on other sites
Zmey Smirnoff Posted September 7, 2007 Author Share Posted September 7, 2007 ^ Sukhoi T-4 Sotka. Link to post Share on other sites
otis252 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Wonderful Pictures. I think I read that the great Soviets did not copy the design of the B-29. They claimed it was their own design with many "improvements'. Our friends the Communist! As Dr. Phil would say, "how's that Communism working out for you"? Chuck Link to post Share on other sites
Zmey Smirnoff Posted September 7, 2007 Author Share Posted September 7, 2007 I dont know what you think you read, but its a well known fact that Tu-4 was an exact, rivet-for-rivet copy of B-29. I'd like to see the source where that fact is refuted or denied. Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 I dont know what you think you read, but its a well known fact that Tu-4 was an exact, rivet-for-rivet copy of B-29. I'd like to see the source where that fact is refuted or denied. Not exactly Zmey - it is an urban myth that Tupolev copied it rivet-for-rivet, down to the bullet holes!! The Tu-4 was 'reverse-engineered', it used metric rather than imperial measurements, it had Soviet ASh-73TK radials and 20mm cannons. It was not 'an exact copy' - it was lighter and had a better ceiling than the original. Ken Link to post Share on other sites
Impatient Pete Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Wow! Great pics and thanks for sharing Zmey- Link to post Share on other sites
Zmey Smirnoff Posted September 7, 2007 Author Share Posted September 7, 2007 Not exactly Zmey - it is an urban myth that Tupolev copied it rivet-for-rivet, down to the bullet holes!!The Tu-4 was 'reverse-engineered', it used metric rather than imperial measurements, it had Soviet ASh-73TK radials and 20mm cannons. It was not 'an exact copy' - it was lighter and had a better ceiling than the original. Ken Cool, thanks for clarifying it Ken. Wasnt aware of that. Link to post Share on other sites
Zmey Smirnoff Posted September 7, 2007 Author Share Posted September 7, 2007 (edited) Alright, decided not to start another thread and post these photos here. When I was at Monino museum there was construction underway for some sort of event. All the evil museum ladies were distracted, so myself, Shark and Sebastijan sneaked to the graveyard in the back of the museum for a closer look. Enjoy. Edited September 7, 2007 by Zmey Smirnoff Link to post Share on other sites
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Zmey Smirnoff Posted September 7, 2007 Author Share Posted September 7, 2007 (edited) whew. glad i dont have to do this for another 2 years Edited September 7, 2007 by Zmey Smirnoff Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 (edited) That's an amazing group of photos you've posted. And I guess I didn't realize they had that many aircraft there. That's quite the collection. Edited September 8, 2007 by David Walker Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Very interesting ! Thanks ! Gregg Link to post Share on other sites
Su-34 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 (edited) You lucky guys! When i was there (restaurators place actually, not graveyard) we we're ok for 20 minutes, but then the evil, cold, dark museum lady came and shouted at us, like "come away from there" Intresting on MiG-23, is that the some texts are in english, is she an export machine that never arrived to its destination or something... errhh? Edited September 8, 2007 by Su-34 Link to post Share on other sites
geedubelyer Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Terrific photos Zmey, thanks for posting them. It just shows that pre-shading has its' place in modelling. Some of those early BMF birds are straight out of Flash Gordon. Marvellous. Link to post Share on other sites
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