bad edd Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 I started two Mig-21Bis from Zvezda that i'll convert to Romanian Lancers, A & C. Hopefully, in the end they will look like this: Apart from the multitude of antennae, air ducts and scoops to scratchbuid, the main job will be to thin the spine down to a MF size. I already started doing this: The cockpit will be pretty much the original one, with the LCD displays scratchbuilt (one for the Lancer A, two for the more advanced C) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewS Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Nice start edd, Yet again it will be interesting to watch your build. Cheers, Andrew. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PNW_Modeler Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 I thought these were Fishbeds? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bad edd Posted March 8, 2008 Author Share Posted March 8, 2008 They are Fishbeds, but nobody calls them Fishbeds here; that is the NATO name for the Mig-21. These upgraded Migs are called Lancers in the Romanian AF. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PNW_Modeler Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 ah....gotcha. Thanks for the insight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Off to a great start! :wacko: Yet again! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bad edd Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 The air scoop on the spine of the Mig is about 1 cm too far back . To arrange this, i made another hole in the right position and covered the back one with a slice of sprue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragan_mig31 Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 wowwwwww :P mig-21 rule :P cant wiat to see that great romanian camo on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raymond Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 ausome!!!! you soudl hang python IIIs and opher IR bombs off it :P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bad edd Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 I painted all the inside pieces, because i really want to close the fuselages tonight: The Lancer can carry Python 3 for sure, but i will arm one with two Magics. The other will be probably armed with some smart bombs". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragan_mig31 Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 great progress so far cant wait to see this two painted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bad edd Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 While the paint dries on the radomes, i used the Agama riveter on the wings. Also, the flaps are somewhat simplified on the Zvezda kit, so i begun correcting them, first by sticking bits of styrene sheet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Haneto also did an excellent Lancer some time ago. Maybe this might help for your scratchbuilding of the antennas & scoops and stuff: http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index....5&hl=lancer ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bad edd Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 I don't think I'll ever match Haneto , he is a master of model building ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bad edd Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 A great victory! I managed to close the fuselages today, as i hoped. I also glued the thinned spines and the tail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragan_mig31 Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 i am really amaize by your builds :blink: i cant wait to see more progres Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 The Lancer can carry Python 3 for sure, but i will arm one with two Magics. The other will be probably armed with some smart bombs". Magics and Sidewinders on the same plane look good too! :wub: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Looks good so far. But i cant understand why you bothered to putty spine...:wub: I test fitted it some hours ago (before i saw your thread) and i didnt notice any gaps at all. Only on fin area. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bad edd Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 I had to do this as I thinned the spine a lot (about 1 mm form each side) in order to bring it closer to a MF one. Doing it obviously ruined the fit. Romanians never had the fat spine Bis, all the single seat Lancer upgrades were based on the MF. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Ahh, i understand. I did read that you wrote you are going to thin it down, but for some stupid reason i was thinking you were going to to that from top. :wub: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 (edited) I had to do this as I thinned the spine a lot (about 1 mm form each side) in order to bring it closer to a MF one.Doing it obviously ruined the fit. Romanians never had the fat spine Bis, all the single seat Lancer upgrades were based on the MF. They proposed - and built - a 'Lancer III', based on the -bis airframe - but it was not proceeded with. The Lancer-A & C are based on the -MF airframe. Lancer-A.. Lancer-B.. Lancer-C.. Lancer-III MiG-21MF's awaiting conversion....... MiG-21PFM (Romanian designation RFM-M)...... MiG-21R.. Ken Edited March 10, 2008 by Flankerman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haneto Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Incredible built,bad egg! I'm a little regret to use Fujimi kit for converting and what's worse,I didn't pay notice to the difference between MF and bis. So you built will make a absolutely accurate looking Lancer. Keep on the nice work! Yufei Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 If someone is interested in Lancer photos, contact Kyrre. He have some. http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showuser=118 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragan_mig31 Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 so eny prorgress on the migs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bad edd Posted March 13, 2008 Author Share Posted March 13, 2008 Yes...i'm adding more and more scoops and antennae. I'll return soon with pics, as soon as get my camera back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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