Tomcat RIO Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 (edited) well i had a grim idea all along after seeing more of zactoman's flanker colour profiles. let us assume that iranian leadership continues on its nuclear programe and its aggressive stance towards everyone (less russia and china whom they get weapons from). eventually they come to a point where they are militrary strong, and capable of nuclear warfare, thus bringing great destabilty to the region. not only do they threaten the rich oil producing states to her west, to the north, it eyes the russian and turkish gas fields, and east, seeks to expand its strength on a ever weakening pakistan. i'm thinking of a russian supplied su-30 single seater with canards in the old 3 tone desert camo. they fulfil a multirole task, but with greater stress on long range air to ground,air to air missions. for their intercept, air to ground and CAS role, they use the chinese J-10 for shorter radius missions around their borders. they may also have funded development of the mapo/mig 1.44 to small scale production. and pushing it into service with aesa radar and locally built r-77 missile variant. given the old strategy that my enemies enemy is my friend, states that are wary of iran's leadership but have insufficent strength or force projection abilty to strike iran, look towards iran's erstwhile 'rival' israel. these states may supply funds to help israel purchase more weapons and technolgy through covert or direct means. they may also send their military hardware to israel itself to use her as a stepping stone against a unpredicatble nuclear threat that could wreck oil supply and prices. some of these new equipment include: ex-venezulean su-30s field modifed to carry python 4s and dash-3 helmets, in exchange for f-16 upgrades and parts new build f-35s rushed into production and rafael and delilah capable. experimental f-16 block 70, essentially an f-16XL but built to israeli specs and supplement the sufas and baraks. of course, regional and global superpowers and states may also upgrade their hardware, in the political classic case of the 'security dilemma spiral' eurofighters in greek 3 tone aegean blue scheme turkish and egyptian mitsubishi F-2s syrian mig-35 saudi strike eagles with sniper pods, their eurofighter in desert scheme similiar to their tornado GR indian modified hindustan industries hai-47 - the operational version of the sukhoi s-47 berkut. so many possible what ifs from one tumultous region alone.. mods if you feel this thread and post is too sensitive by all means delete it. i dont want secret service to be knocking on my doors too. and i sincerely apologise if i have offended anyone. Edited May 26, 2009 by Tomcat RIO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
illithid00 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 so many possible what ifs from one tumultous region alone.. mods if you feel this thread and post is too sensitive by all means delete it. i dont want secret service to be knocking on my doors too. and i sincerely apologise if i have offended anyone. I don't think this is any more sensitive than a model from Vietnam or World War II. I say go for it, it sounds like you've got some really interesting ideas here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Dude, all those sound awesome! And nothing could be more inflammatory on this board than my WWIII scenario that all my whiffs come from where America is the main antagonist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 So kind of a middle eastern arms race? Very interesting! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imatt88 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Hey Tomcat, its a whif...go for it Cheers, Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat RIO Posted March 9, 2009 Author Share Posted March 9, 2009 hi guys thanks for the kind comments. i have already assigned and started some kits. a revell 1/144 mig 1.44 is already begun, with extensive modifications. markings for iranian airforce in the pipeline is a Jordanian air force eurofighter in desert 3 tone scheme. which they would have purchased from the saudi arabia's 72 strong fleet in a bilateral agreement and also to supplement the early block f-16s and replace older types. i have a finished revell eurofighter that was handpainted. i took away the missiles and parts for spares and it will be resprayed in qatar air force markings, which have similiarly been acquired 2nd hand from saudi arabia as part of the present day gulf cooperation council. 2 more flankers are also on order, one will be israeli markings ( i can hear cheers from some fans out there) and markings will be similiar to what zactoman did. and with kill markings. and with python 4 AAMs mounted on the 2 outer pylons. and the green-2 tone brown IAF scheme. (ooh i wet myself) i am still wondering how a flanker will mount a sniper or litening 3 pod on its intakes, and in typical israeli fashion, hang lots of bumps and antennaes all over. and i think alot of people might be keen on seeing JDAMs and Delilahs and popeyes and aim120s on a flanker too. the other will be a iranian su-35 from zvezda, in the old 3 tone style camo. this will be armed with the oversized weapons from the kit such as the big antiship missile and the outsized r-10s? of course, i will mount a aim-54 phoenix on the inboard pylons, just for old times's sake. as for the political implications of building this, i certainly have forewarned people to take a chillpill.. in the future i would also like to build a pakistani and iranian j-10 in desert greyish brown camo, and a NIQRAF(New Iraqi Republic airforce) F-16A MLU or a Tweet t-37! armed with aim-9s to provide a measure of self defence against a preponderous iran. but given the limited time left for this GB, and the other projects and GBs that are calling for me, i would have to build them outside of the GB. But it would be interesting indeed , that some of those what-ifs might eventually become will-be s.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat RIO Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 ok! first up is the iranian new desert schemed j-10. i took reference from one of the side profiles on the what-if thread in jet modelling kit is the trumpeter, and it went togehter very well, requiring only some puttying of seam lines, and removal of flash. i repositioned the flaps to a flap down position. packaging with insulation packs? the chinese are so nationalistic towards their own kits.. rubber bands to keep the wing root joint cool and together, also sanding of putty areas primer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Oooh, a J-10! Nice! :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I like that J-10 and I'm going to be following this one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat RIO Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 (edited) and away number one! islamic republic of iranian airforce j-10! Edited March 30, 2009 by Tomcat RIO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 and away number one! imperial iranian airforce j-10! SAWEEET! :) turned out awesome, keep it up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 (edited) Fan-freakin'-tastic! Those colours look very good on the J-10! It's no longer the Imperial Iranian Air Force ( IIAF ), though. IRIAF stands for Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force. ;) Edited March 29, 2009 by ChernayaAkula Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alvis 3.1 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 That's one cool looking plane and a wickedly cool camo scheme. Alvis 3.1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Supertom Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I was actually doing an Iranian J-10 along the same lines as yours, except I ended up shelving it because I couldn't get the paint to look "right." What colors did you use? Mine just would not come up properly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat RIO Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 It's no longer the Imperial Iranian Air Force ( IIAF ), though. IRIAF stands for Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force. noted.. changed. that was quite embarassing. I was actually doing an Iranian J-10 along the same lines as yours, except I ended up shelving it because I couldn't get the paint to look "right." What colors did you use? Mine just would not come up properly. hmm.. i used RAF Hemp brown h-336? and gunze h-307. my think my basecoat of light grey helped to lighten the pastel colours.. thanks guys for the good feedback and pms.. i hve started next, an f-35 in israeli camo scheme. trying a new method. adding steel colout to the green and browns and see what i get. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherC Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Don't know how I missed this. Your J-10 looks great! It's quite an unusual looking aircraft. Can't wait to see your Israeli F-35! Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat RIO Posted May 26, 2009 Author Share Posted May 26, 2009 well this next one sure looks better in kit form than in the drawings. i present the F-22I . (ps anyone got a cool hebrew word or name for a fierce bird or animal) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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