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Tank Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Thanks for all the pics. What is every one's thoughts on this kit? Is it still worth doing the Fireball conversion? Some detail from what I can recall is sharper on the Fireball parts. Would this be a good starting point and upgrade certain parts with the Fireball conversion? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
George Creed Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 I don't know about the Fireball conversion, but this kit looks pretty complete and should be a good build, they (Hobby Boss) have gotten good praise on their aircraft kits, and I am building their Landwasserschleeper kit which is easy and fun. Granted on the Wasserschleeper the detail is not a sthrough as the Bronco kit, but the cost is way less !!!! I by passed buying it on our group by from Squadron this month, but evetyday i am tempted to get one on the next month group buy... George Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 It looks pretty good. The rotor blades are the incorrect Army/AF style with square root ends as opposed to the folding Naval style though. Joseph's has more and better decals too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tblood988 Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 It would lokk OK with the evrything buttoned up, and it looks like a decent sanity saver build. The amount of work you would have to do in order to create some deeper level of detail would make the conversion a better choice, I think. I will probably get one, just because I am a CG aviation freak, but I don't know if I will leave it as it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
petebuilt Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 (edited) I suppose it's better than nothing, but I would personally still use the Fireball Modelworks Detail Set. I have built an HH-60H and a HH-60J in 1/72 using the Italeri HH-60H kit and Joseph's sets on both models. The detail with the Fireball resin and decals I would have to say is a far better representation than what I see with the HB kit. i guess it depends on how much $ a person wants to spend, and the level of detail that is desired. Pete Brown Edited April 7, 2009 by petebuilt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arkhunter2002 Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Not to mention their rotor blades are much more detailed (despite being incorrect) than their original UH-60 release. I think I'll wait for one of their HH-60H's though... -Austin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewS Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Robertas, Many thanks for posting your pics of the contents. I've been keen to see more of the contents since the earlier thread linking to the modellversium site and am still very keen to get hold of the kit. Much appreciated. Andrew. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joseph Osborn Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 The kit looks okay overall, and the interior is good enough for 1/72 and a solid starting point for extra detailing. The markings are... lacking. Yeah, that's a good word. The USCG emblem is way off. Also, the lack of a stubby fuel tank for the right-hand pylon makes for an off-balance appearance, but the second tank could be cut down to make a stubby. I suppose one could hang a torpedo off that pylon :lol: After all, the Chi-Coms think that a rocket-firing Huey with big red & white crosses is perfectly normal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tank Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 The kit looks okay overall, and the interior is good enough for 1/72 and a solid starting point for extra detailing. The markings are... lacking. Yeah, that's a good word. The USCG emblem is way off. Also, the lack of a stubby fuel tank for the right-hand pylon makes for an off-balance appearance, but the second tank could be cut down to make a stubby. I suppose one could hang a torpedo off that pylon :) After all, the Chi-Coms think that a rocket-firing Huey with big red & white crosses is perfectly normal Well it's a good thing I already have your set than, isn't it. :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scalemodeladdict Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Would this kit be right for a US Coast Guard Rescue Swimmer diorama? Is there something out there bigger? Thanks for the info. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arkhunter2002 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Cobra Company has a conversion for the Italeri SH-60B in 1/48. http://www.cobracompany.com/48033.htm Joe Osborn (Fireball Modelworks) has the decals: http://www.fireballmodels.info/fm48_d08.htm HTH, Austin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joseph Osborn Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Would this kit be right for a US Coast Guard Rescue Swimmer diorama? Is there something out there bigger? Thanks for the info. Scott, this kit is perfect for a rescue swimmer diorama. When you say "bigger" do you mean a larger helicopter type or a physically bigger model? The Trumpeter 1/48 HH-65A Dolphin is just a little bit larger than a 1/72 Jayhawk. Like Austin mentioned, a 1/48 Jayhawk can be built from an Italeri Rescue Hawk and Cobra Co's and my aftermarket stuff. That combination builds into a rather decent-sized model. When you get around to doing a helo build on the show, I'll help sponsor a contest or something for you. Joseph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) Would this kit be right for a US Coast Guard Rescue Swimmer diorama? Is there something out there bigger? Thanks for the info. If you want bigger than 1/48th, you'll have to make it yourself. How about 1/35..... using custom decals from Fireball. Thanks again Joseph. Edited April 8, 2009 by HeavyArty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ReiRei0 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Joseph; Do you offer the decals separately from the conversion kit? If not, will you? Would you consider offering a scaled-down version of your conversion as a detail set for the HB kit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scalemodeladdict Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) Thanks alot guys. I was thinking bigger scale, but maybe 1/72 would be ok, lighter. The plan is to have the chopper supported by the rope er...brass tube/wire, of the 'basket'. - Most likely it's been done....kinda like in that Guardian movie. I will be doing a chopper season on SMA at some point. I gotta get this Xwing done, then the tank, then the.... I love choppers though. Love em. Thanks again, and that would ROCK Joseph! Have you all got your EGGZtravaganza entry ready? Time is short. QUICK EDIT HERE> I just did the math and this bird is around 10 inches long - that's plenty big. Yet another edit: Just Googled this: http://www.piersystem.com/posted/425/07031..._012.151040.JPG any kits on that subject. Tres cool. Edited April 8, 2009 by scalemodeladdict Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aaronw Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Thanks alot guys. I was thinking bigger scale, but maybe 1/72 would be ok, lighter. The plan is to have the chopper supported by the rope er...brass tube/wire, of the 'basket'. - Most likely it's been done....kinda like in that Guardian movie. I will be doing a chopper season on SMA at some point. I gotta get this Xwing done, then the tank, then the.... I love choppers though. Love em.Thanks again, and that would ROCK Joseph! Have you all got your EGGZtravaganza entry ready? Time is short. QUICK EDIT HERE> I just did the math and this bird is around 10 inches long - that's plenty big. Yet another edit: Just Googled this: http://www.piersystem.com/posted/425/07031..._012.151040.JPG any kits on that subject. Tres cool. There was a very nice USCG helo diorama at the 2007 IPMS nationals in Anaheim. I don't remember if it was an HH-60 or HH-65 but it was similar to your idea with the winch cable supporting the helicopter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arkhunter2002 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I'm trying to do that in 1/72 with the fastropes supporting the helicopter (H-60), but its on hold as #1) college and #2) I have no idea what to use for the supports that look legit in scale... -Austin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) I have no idea what to use for the supports that look legit in scale... That has always been the problem with suspending a helo from either fastropes or a hoist. It is almost impossible to do it and keep the hoist line or fastrope in scale. In 1/72, the hoist line would be the size of a human hair. A fastrope wouldn't be too much thicker. There is no way to suspend the helo from these. The best bet is to have the helo either just touching the edge of a building or something and have a wheel with a rod through it actually supporting it, or have some other hidden support, such as a tree as I did for a Vietnam MedEvac dio. I think I know the USCG dio you are talking about. I think it was actually suspended by a hidden rod off the rear wall/backdrop. Good luck. Edited April 9, 2009 by HeavyArty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) Just Googled this: http://www.piersystem.com/posted/425/07031..._012.151040.JPG any kits on that subject. Tres cool. This: Yes, its an HH-65 Dauphin. Trumpeter makes one in 1/48, but it is the Chinese version. Joseph and Cobra Company to the rescue again. Joseph makes a tail and radome correction set, a rotor blade set, and decals. Cobra Company makes the correct USCG interior set. Revell has a US version in 1/72, which Joseph makes decals for as well. Edited April 9, 2009 by HeavyArty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joseph Osborn Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Joseph;Do you offer the decals separately from the conversion kit? If not, will you? Would you consider offering a scaled-down version of your conversion as a detail set for the HB kit? Definitely Yep on the separate decals. I dunno 'bout creating an alternate resin set; you can always just buy the parts you want from my set and I'll cut a deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Definitely Yep on the separate decals. I dunno 'bout creating an alternate resin set; you can always just buy the parts you want from my set and I'll cut a deal. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Joseph is one of the good ones. He is all about getting you what you need with the minimum expense and hassle. Trust me, Joseph is all about seeing these beauties built. Thanks Joseph for setting the gold standard! Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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