Flankerman Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) OK - I've made a start...... Take one Airfix Su-27.... add large MFD screens to the cockpit..... I'm not bothered about too much detail as the canopy will be closed. I have added plastic card to raise the windscreen (it looks better), added the platform for the offset IRST ball and made a recess for the IFR probe... I also 'sharpened' the radome - and filled in the panel lines around the nose - the Su-35 is different here. At the back end, I have modified the tailboom (right)....... I have also modified the Aires resin nozzles to make a drooped TVC version..... I need to cast some copies in resin - any advice on how best to do it ????? This is what it should look like - I think I've made the holes too big..... More photos here. Ken Edited April 9, 2009 by Flankerman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I have been waiting for this. :D Really good work so far. ;) As usual, you are a modelbuilder, who have guts and skills to modify kits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haneto Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Flanker Godfather...... Wordless,Just ;) Maybe the first Su-35 plastic model ever made! Cheers, Yufei Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alrite Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) Really looking forward to this build ;) BTW is it me or is the Radome of the new Su-35 quite a different shape, somewhat like the double conical nature of the Tornado IDS's nose but to a lesser extent? Edited April 9, 2009 by alrite Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mario krijan Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Great work so far! it would be 902! :D ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rom Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 great!!!! very interesting build!! bye Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST0RM Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Awesome start Ken. Very nice work on the TV nozzles. Should be able to cast them as a single piece, no problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loftycomfort Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Ken, That looks very good so far. Will you be building bort 901 or 902? Cheers, Terry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Ken,That looks very good so far. Will you be building bort 901 or 902? Cheers, Terry Look at his link. He is building bort number 902. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) Find modified...... I have added wider chord rudders and new RWR aerials above. I'll sand off the 'dimples' on the end of the RWR antenna - they are too big. I will also fill in all those panel lines - the structure looks different on the Su-35 - maybe composites ??? This is what the real thing looks like.... Ken Edited April 9, 2009 by Flankerman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Ken, isn't that the Su-37? I thought the 'old' Su-35 was just canards, radar, and avionics. (plus rudders/gear) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Ken, isn't that the Su-37? I thought the 'old' Su-35 was just canards, radar, and avionics. (plus rudders/gear) ;) That is Su-35 bort number 901. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
illithid00 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) Ken, isn't that the Su-37? I thought the 'old' Su-35 was just canards, radar, and avionics. (plus rudders/gear) The old Su-35 and the Su-37 both had canards. This is the new Su-35 with thrust vectoring and no canards. There's a thread about it in the Research Corner. EDIT: http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index....howtopic=181874 That's the Su-35 thread. Edited April 9, 2009 by illithid00 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) The old Su-35 and the Su-37 both had canards. This is the new Su-35 with thrust vectoring and no canards. There's a thread about it in the Research Corner.EDIT: http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index....howtopic=181874 That's the Su-35 thread. Wait for it... Wait for it... Daaaaaaiiiiiiiighghhgghghhgglalalalalalalalalalalala!!!!!!!!!!!! :coolio: ;) Sorry, that was intended to be an atomic facepalm. Edited April 10, 2009 by sv51macross Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doctorpepper Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Ken, about the copies in resin, let me know. i'm willing to pick it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jack-Swiss Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Amazing conversion and project started there! I'll follow this withg big interest indeed! Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 Onward and upward............... The two odd-shaped 'boxes' are added to the tailboom - I used triangular section plastic beam shaped to size.... Next up are the two triangular-shaped RWR aerials on the tailboom (white plastic card) - I have also re-instated the latches for the tailcone parachute door. The two home-made TVC nozzles are temporarily taped in place to see what they look like. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragan_mig31 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 this is going to be the greatest su-27 family aircraft on the net :) cant wait to see the camo :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnthonyWan Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Following your build closely Ken! :) Thanks for the reply on the message btw Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkins Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Onward and upward...............The two odd-shaped 'boxes' are added to the tailboom - I used triangular section plastic beam shaped to size.... Next up are the two triangular-shaped RWR aerials on the tailboom (white plastic card) - I have also re-instated the latches for the tailcone parachute door. The two home-made TVC nozzles are temporarily taped in place to see what they look like. Ken Lookin' good so far, Ken! But, I think the "odd-boxes" on the tail-boom are a little over-sized. If you'll check the pictures of the real thing closely you'll notice the difference. Just trying to help! Cheers Emil P.S. This is exactly what I'm building, but based on the Academy's Flanker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Lookin' good so far, Ken!But, I think the "odd-boxes" on the tail-boom are a little over-sized. If you'll check the pictures of the real thing closely you'll notice the difference. Just trying to help! Cheers Emil P.S. This is exactly what I'm building, but based on the Academy's Flanker. I have to agree. I also noticed that they are a bit to far back. Notice where the boxes ends on the pic from the side of the real thing. They are 3/4 of their size over the, dunno what to call it, "flaps" on the side of the tailboom. While on your model they are 1/2 over them, 1/2 not over them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnthonyWan Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 New banner Ken..:) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moche Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Impressive! Whiche paint scheme are yo going to do? the grey/blue/white one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) I have to agree. I also noticed that they are a bit to far back. Notice where the boxes ends on the pic from the side of the real thing. They are 3/4 of their size over the, dunno what to call it, "flaps" on the side of the tailboom. While on your model they are 1/2 over them, 1/2 not over them. I can't get a thing past you guys !!! But Berkut and Hawkins are absolutely correct those boxes are too long..... Is this any better ???...... It's a difficult shape to get right - especially in 1:72 scale. Now - are those triangular RWR aerials too big ??? The photos make the model look bigger than it actually is - or rather you can see more detail (ie mistakes) in the photos than I can see in real life with my old eyes. Keep those critiques coming - at least you are keeping me honest Ken PS - Moche, yes - bort 902. PPS - Breaking news...... The Su-35-4 is a transitional stage to the fifth generation airplane in which design and engineering solutions of today's new development will be used. The third flying article of the experimental batch of this airplane is now undergoing ground tests. This airplane's systems are being debugged by the association's flight test station specialists together with Sukhoy Experimental Design Bureau representatives. It differs significantly from the two previous articles: many design changes have been introduced and unique capabilities for control of parameters have been included. After conclusion of the cycle of ground tests, the Su-35-4 fighter will undergo flight tests and be sent to the Sukhoy OKB development base as early as April for further studies of this aircraft's operating parameters. Source: 03.04.09, Vostok-Media So presumably Su-35-4 is bort 904 - and is the first production representative example (with 903 being a static test article?). I hope they haven't changed it too much !!! - although the phrase "It differs significantly from the two previous articles" indicates that they have. Edited April 12, 2009 by Flankerman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cemical Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Nice man, nice do it yourself job:) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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