mig21gato Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) Hi Comrades,well sure you know this old Academy kit; Some to ad,Eduard photoetches,for some details,instrument panels,some antena's And a Resin ejection seat cheers Edited June 16, 2014 by mig21gato Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOLMES Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 The kit is pretty good. like MiGs ..so look forward to seeing this build..Good start . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mig21gato Posted June 3, 2010 Author Share Posted June 3, 2010 First I like this cammo,Bulgarian Air Force. Or In Soviet air superirity gray; So I really love put the training misil's Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cpoud117 Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 I vote DDR and I wish you luck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mig21gato Posted June 3, 2010 Author Share Posted June 3, 2010 Hi Holmes and cpoud117 Thank's. So I really like MiG's,and the flogger have many paint schemes to do. Well gentlemans,wish you luck too Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sig226 Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 I vote for the East German one also......tho the Kit is an MF and the pics you showed are ML's altho I'm sure you know this already, either way I'm looking forward to viewing your build ! Regards Simon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mig21gato Posted June 10, 2010 Author Share Posted June 10, 2010 (edited) Hi comrades,Yes mate sig226,somewhere i read the academy's kit look more like the "Flogger E",like the Lybians flogger's,certainly Im missed into the Flogger variants, I can't see the diference into MiG-23ML and MiG-23MF,this complish more cause some countrys use both versions,like Bulgary,recive a batch of MF's and few years later recive another batch of ML's. I believe some of the wrong details in the kit is the nose cone,Zvezda is the one,with a correct nose cone... So i just have another flogger,an airfix MiG-23,I gota take many pieces,like the R-23 suports,and small auxiliar air intakes. Well,there some advances; First there some details to erase,like the "HUD",and the auxiliar air intakes, I see many pic of the KM-1M ejection seats,and their are so diferents,one in all black,other totally gray with some details in green,another gray,green and black...So this don't like me because for me look "So western". And these,the Eduard instruments panel For the inner cockpit i use the model master russian interior blue/green. And well start to look like a Flogger,but is many work to do... And well if you know where to download 1/72 scale draws for MiG-23ML/MF/ and MiG-23UB please tell me.I just have the cutaway of the pics.Thanks Cheers Edited June 10, 2010 by mig21gato Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sebastijan Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 easiest way to differentiate between MF and ML when standing on the ground is that MF sits at angle,the back of the fuselage closer to the ground that the front - ML sits parallel to the ground MiG-23ML drawings http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/mig23.html MiG-23MF drawings http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/mig23mf.html http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/mig23mf4+.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Uncool Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 MiG-23ML drawingshttp://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/mig23.html ;) Noooiiiceee...!!! Whut scale did ya say these drawings were in again, Sebster, mate? Have ya got any Russian fighter's drawings on rusjet.ru, yeh? Do ya, do ya...? Onkel Dünkelgraü Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 The picture in the background is awesome. Can you post it again but without the Academy kit parts? I really like the close-up with the pilot looking upwards. Thank you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mig21gato Posted June 20, 2010 Author Share Posted June 20, 2010 Hi Gentlemans,thanks Sebastijan,this planes are wonderfull,and Yes JackMan, I gotta post this picture soon,is a MiG-27 of Sri Lanka,published in "Combat aircraft"some years ago. Well with this beauty scale planes in my hands i start to check the details,first i need to reduce the planes in a 12%, so i see another thiference into MF and ML,the tail,Is shorter in the ML There I need to cut the spine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragan_mig31 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 nice work so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Uncool Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 first i need to reduce the planes in a 12%, So the plans are in 1/48th scale then, ain't they...? Will somebody P*L*E*A*S*E! answer that question to me? so i see another thiference into MF and ML,the tail,Is shorter in the ML Yes? yes? yes? Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssss...??? Mate, are ya from any Spanish-spoken country or is it just the "Aviones de Guerra" part on the MiG-23 whut ya've got there? Cheers, Unc² Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mig21gato Posted June 22, 2010 Author Share Posted June 22, 2010 Hi Gentlemans,Thanks Dragan_mig31. Hi Uncle Uncool, Yes I'm mexican,I speak spanish jejeje,and yes is "Aviones de guerra" edited in Mexico by RBA,10 years ago.I love this publication,but mine is incomplete.Wish this be reedited. And well, the scale drawings are not in 1/72 or 1/48,may be a intermediate scale,comparing with the academy pieces,if the scale draw is 100%,the academy kit is 88% well,more advances soon. Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Uncool Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Hi Uncle Uncool, Yes I'm mexican,I speak spanish jejeje,and yes is "Aviones de guerra" edited in Mexico by RBA,10 years ago.I love this publication,but mine is incomplete.Wish this be reedited. Hi there, gato, mate! Back in 2005, me used to date a Mexican sheila from the DF; she left my heart full of agujeritos, by the way. Me's from Buenos Aires (which means trouble is comin' our way the next Sunday, huh? ;) ). Whut d'ya mean yer Aviones de Guerra is incomplete? Meanin' the part lacks info about some versions of the MiG-23s or that it's got some pages missin'? There's another bloke from Mexico on this forum, Carlitos Ruiz (aka cruiz), who's doin' a kick arse model out of the Airfix 1/48th scale Super Etendard. He drove me mad with his extraordinary skills. Unfortunately, he seems not to have much time left for updates on his awesome build. Do ya know Carlitos? And well, the scale drawings are not in 1/72 or 1/48,may be a intermediate scale,comparing with the academy pieces,if the scale draw is 100%,the academy kit is 88% Hmph... too bad, but I'll try to get the files to an artistic design shop 'n' figure out the printin' size to match the quarter scale. Those plans are real good, which come very handy to aid in the correction of the awful ESCI 1/48th scale MiG-23... Incidentally; is Sabrina Sabrok still mad at Jorge Lafauci? That Lafauci bloke had no right to talk 'bout ugliness, precisely, did he? Un abrazo fuerte, pibito! Unc² Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mig21gato Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 Hi Uncle,How are you?,well, I have a mistake,is not "aviones de guerra" is "AVIACION" And my collection is incomplete,sadly i miss some numbers And Sabrina,so many time i don't hear nothing about she,last notice she was "girlfriend"of a mexican "Luchador" And yes those planes are excellent. Bueno compañero,le mando un abrazo. And for JackMan; the pik was published in these combat aircraft number; And well,the last news; The tail is ready,and in posicion;now ready for the putty... Like the vertical estabilizators,here with the repaneled work done I was in that when i see an interesant detail,the landing lights,they are retractable.... I must to fill the hole for the landing light,usin a spare Well,gentlemans,see you soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mig21gato Posted July 24, 2010 Author Share Posted July 24, 2010 Hi Gentlemans,well,i was some disconnected,so here i go; There is the Eduard photoetche HUD,ready to paint Well,some details I dont like,these gotta be sanded,like two "bulges"in the bottom fuselage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mig21gato Posted July 24, 2010 Author Share Posted July 24, 2010 Same pik for clarity without captions. The airfix afterburner auxiliary air intakes installed cockpit windshield installed. Well i was now decided,these gotta be in D.D.R. colours Thank's Everrybody.See you soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sig226 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 wooohoo..........an NVA/LSK a/c...........GOOD choice matey !, you fitting it with warshots or Training rounds ? Regards Simon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mig21gato Posted July 24, 2010 Author Share Posted July 24, 2010 Hi Simon,i think fit it with training rounds. Regards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragan_mig31 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 it looks pretty good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mig21gato Posted July 30, 2010 Author Share Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) Thanks Dragan_mig31,well,this some little advances; nose cone and blue undersurfaces first hand; And the frontal frames of cockpit,there i was considering use some missils to represent the practice ones,was considering use the Condor,just cutting this wings And the practice R-23,looks more like a R-27... Now i was considerin use the R-60 form italeris MiG-29,and R-27 from Condor...For represent the practice version of R-23 and R-27. Academy's R-60 and R-27 are unuseful,the R-60 dont looks like a R-60,and the R-23 is too fat. cheers Edited July 30, 2010 by mig21gato Quote Link to post Share on other sites
modelmax Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Hi, I really like your work...your mig is comming out great. Also, thanks for posting the great pictures...I've copied them into my reference pics for future reference...hope you don't mind. thanks and good luck. Ernie A. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragan_mig31 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 I don't think that those mig-23 ML used r-27 ever.please check your references. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sig226 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 I don't think that those mig-23 ML used r-27 ever.please check your references. I could be wrong but I think he's on about using the body of the R-27's with the fins removed as practice/aquisition rounds, instead of the supplied R-23's which he thinks are too fat in the body. Regards Simon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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