Shot Down Spitfire Mk.Vb

[Nicolaas]

Where can I find photos of Spitfires shot down over Europe?

A portrait fell on my Mk.Vb and it is destroyed! Now I want to use it do make a diorama of a shot down spitfire...

Nico

[SBARC]

Here's a good one.......I'm not sure what Mk. it is....but it will get you started,

Or perhaps an Israeli one...This is a Mk. IX that crashed in the early 1950's....

Or this one from 1938 at Duxford.....a Mk 1....notice the wooden prop.....

And one final one....not sure what Mk.....

The first photo is my favourite.

[agboak]

That Mk.I is interesting - note the serial under the wing. However, if that's a wooden prop why is it bent rather than broken? It also appears to have three blades and a hub - note what seems to a hole in the rear part of the spinner. This looks to me like an early metal DH prop, but I didn't realise that the spinner came in two parts.

The top photo looks like a Mk.IX - or XVI? 4-blade prop but fixed tailwheel, fuselage band present so it is in faded (very faded) Day Fighter Scheme. Somewhere warm but not tropical uniform. Any chance of reading the serial?

[Nicolaas]

Thanks SBARC. I like the Israeli one. The corn field can make an interesting diorama. Too bad its a Mk.IX and not a Vb

[SBARC]

That Mk.I is interesting - note the serial under the wing. However, if that's a wooden prop why is it bent rather than broken? It also appears to have three blades and a hub - note what seems to a hole in the rear part of the spinner. This looks to me like an early metal DH prop, but I didn't realise that the spinner came in two parts.

I think you're right about the prop....I saw the one blade that looks sheared off and went with that instaed of pondering the fact it does look like a later 3 blade prop. The photo caption said this was the 4th Spitfire delivered to Duxford......no serial number given. I do like the burned away tail flying surfaces on the top photo.

Thanks SBARC. I like the Israeli one. The corn field can make an interesting diorama. Too bad its a Mk.IX and not a Vb :wub:

Ya.....these are mostly to give you inspiration for laying out a diorama etc. I didn't see any crashed Spit Mk V photos.

[agboak]

If you pop across to Luftwaffe Experten Message Board, there probably are a number of crashed Mk.Vs in their Captured British Aircraft: Spitfires thread.

[Nicolaas]

Thanks agboak!

[Stona]

Here's my favourote. John Caulton's machine,shot down by Hans Joachim Jabs in April 1944 IIRC. Caulton was a New Zealander yet the two men met and became good friends after the war.

Steve

Edit Sorry, a IX not a V.

Edited November 23, 2010 by Stona

[phat trev]

I do like the burned away tail flying surfaces on the top photo.

A good way of replicating fabric like this would be to scratch the structures of the rudder/elevators (even alierons on early Spits) and then cover them with decal. Paint the aircraft as per usual and then tear though the decal covered surfaces with a sharpe knife point touching up afterwards. Just a thought.

[Jay Chladek]

There are a few famous shots of Stanford Tuck's machine after it crash landed on a beach in France and it was a Mk. V (not sure if it was a Vb though). The Squadron Spitfire book has them, although I am sure they are probably on the web somewhere as well.

Found one small shot of the fuselage here:

http://www.bbm.org.uk/Tuck.htm

And here is another shot of Germans looking over the plane here:

http://www.raf.mod.uk/news.cfm?storyid=CDC...E27C87DE8DF527B

Edited November 23, 2010 by Jay Chladek

[Jolly Roger]

And one final one....not sure what Mk.....

That' an Australian VII, the shark nose gives it away B)

[Nicolaas]

I like that pic of yours Stona! Would be a challenge to build but it'll look goooooood!

[agboak]

Tuck's machine was a Mk.Vb. This was too early for a Mk.Vc, which were rare in UK operations.

The Aussie machine was not a VII but an VIII - I'm sure that was just a typo but it needs correcting - and the bush hat is a bit of a hint too.

[skidbuggy]

MK.Vb of VCS-7 (U.S. Navy)

I found this on the web...

[TonyT]

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/History/...t/Spitfire.html

[Nicolaas]

MK.Vb of VCS-7 (U.S. Navy)

I found this on the web...

If that's an American Spitfire why does it have a roundel and not a star? I thought the American Spitfires had those blue circles with a yellow lining and a white star?

[Slartibartfast]

American Navy was temporarily issued some Spits (half-a-dozen?) for fire spotting during D-Day. They were considered the best at the job and a few airmen hastily learned to fly the Spitfire for the task. Obviously, they too had troubles with the narrow-track landing gear.

[Stona]

Caulton was flying a IX not a V but here is a nice picture of his first meeting with the man who shot him down. It looks like Caulton cracked his head,probably on the gunsight,during his crash landing.

Cheers

Steve

[Nicolaas]

Thanks Slartibartfast. I like this one may build it.

Look how big the P-47 in the background is compared to the Spitfire

[rav_pl]

Now I want to use it do make a diorama of a shot down spitfire...

I hope you accept repainting the model, because I have an interesting story for you...

This is Mk.Vb RF-E AA940 of the famous Polish 303 Squadron, flown by Fl/Lt. Stefan Kolodynski, shot down by ace Hptm Joachim Muncheberg (it was his 73rd victory) over France on 27th of April 1942. The pilot was unhurt and captured by Germans.

[rav_pl]

[Nicolaas]

THANKS rav pl!!! I've heard of this guy before and it was actually this one that I wanted to build! I couldn't get pictures of it anywhere. Thanks a lot! Question... Where can I get decals for this plan? And what colour was the camouflage? Same as the British Mk.Vb? Grey and green?

[rav_pl]

I don't think there is decal set for this particular aircraft, but it is very similar (the same unit and period) to my Zumbach's Spitfire:

For RF-D in its early form I used Techmod decals:

When you have this (or similar in your scale), you will still need only different serial and two little swastikas.

[agboak]

American Navy was temporarily issued some Spits (half-a-dozen?) for fire spotting during D-Day. They were considered the best at the job and a few airmen hastily learned to fly the Spitfire for the task. Obviously, they too had troubles with the narrow-track landing gear.

It seems unlikely, given that they came from Seagulls and possibly Kingfishers, neither of which have wide landing gears in their land-based variants. More likely is a technical problem, perhaps with German assistance.

[Nicolaas]

Anyone got pics of a shot down SAAF spitfire perhaps?