AnthonyWan Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_U...JglQPZ5WF4P4Wbl Title says it all. -A Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Triarius Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Well, that isn't good. Seems to be the whole Acryl line. I sent them an e-mail, we'll see what they say. Glad I have a lifetime supply. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye's Hobbies Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Has the same properties as the Blue...I prefer replacing my Blue with their White...once I have used it up of course. Nice to see they are offering both the green and white in smaller tubes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I'd be wary of the 10-15 min dry time, you'll see allot of shrinkage with that, and will most likely have to use multipal applications. A club member uses the Blue, but I don't see it listed. Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye's Hobbies Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I'd be wary of the 10-15 min dry time, you'll see allot of shrinkage with that, and will most likely have to use multipal applications.A club member uses the Blue, but I don't see it listed. Curt The Blue has been discontinued...hence my recommendation for the White as a replacement. Its better to have a neutral color to apply paint over...covering green or red can be difficult with a light colored paint. Auto restorers use the different colors as they make repairs so they can better see how their work is progressing. You ALWAYS apply glazes and putty in THIN and Multiple layers...NOT ONE THICK ONE! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Triarius Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Here's the word straight from 3M: The putties have been repackaged and are now 14.5 ounces. The only onethat didn't change is PN#05960, 3M Acryl Green Putty. The part numbers on the others also changed. Here are the part numbers in 14.5 ounces. PN# 05960- Acryl-Green Putty-did not change PN# 05964 is now PN# 05095 and is white, but same as the blue putty (05964) PN# 05966 is now PN# 05098-14.5oz PN# 05972 is now PN# 05099-14.5oz Wish they said that clearly on the product pages. The white is the same as the older blue, but without the blue pigment. Not only is it better for covering with paint, it's less expensive to manufacture—most blue pigments are rather pricey, compared to others. I wonder why they haven't changed the green, too, as green pigments tend to be expensive, as well. Yes, the putties do dry relatively quickly. You can thin them with small amounts of 90% isopropyl alcohol to slow drying without creating gas pinholes in the putty. They can even be thinned to the consistency of the Gunze Mr. Surfacer products, but that is so labor intensive its worth just buying the Mr. Surfacer. However, thinning small amounts for shallow applications works very well. USE ONLY WITH VERY ADEQUATE VENTILATION!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Janissary Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 For those of you have used both Acryl blue (white) and Mr White putty, could you compare the two? I build 1/48 models. I have been using the latter but do not have a point of reference to say whether it is good or bad. I thin in with lacquer thinner on an old cd and it does take some work. Just wanted to know if Acryl is superior that makes it easier to use with high quality results. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DutyCat Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I have a big tube of the green that a buddy gave me. He tried the green and the blue and liked the blue, so he gave the green to me. My observations: it still shrinks like Squadron Green, but not as much, and it is harder to sand. My general observations are that the harder a putty dries, the better edge it will hold when you are blending. I think Tamiya White is pretty much the gold standard. it doesn't shrink much and feathers nicely. It is not carried by most LHS's, though. I got four tubes via mail order last year and am about a third of the way through one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spectre711 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I got this a while back. The 3Mâ„¢ Acryl-Blue Glazing Putty, 05964 is no longer available. Thesuggested replacement is the 3Mâ„¢ Acryl-Marine Putty, 05962 White. This is the old 21 oz. tube and we have inventory. Eventually the 21 oz tube 05962 will be phased out and be replaced by 05095 in the 14.5 oz. tube. The 3Mâ„¢ Acryl-Marine Putty is the same formula as the 3Mâ„¢ Acryl-Blue Glazing Putty except that it does not have the blue colorant Napa or Carquest in you area should have these products. Sincerely Clauzel G. 3M Automotive Aftermarket Division hopefully this information will help.These products vary widely depending on temperature and thickness of application. Because they cure by solvent evaporation, a small difference in applied thickness or temperature can cause a multi-hour shift in sand time. Here are some VERY ROUGH estimates of sand times for the Acryl putties (all at 72 deg F): 3Mâ„¢ Acryl-Green Spot Putty, PN 05960: A truly "spot-only" putty, this one cures the fastest and will not work for spreading over large areas. To be used only for small spot repairs. In a thin film, this should be sandable in about 15 minutes. In a thicker film, could be 30 minutes or longer. 3Mâ„¢ Acryl Red Glazing Putty, PN 05966 ,and 3Mâ„¢ Super Red Putty, PN 05972: Both similar in sand times. In a thin film, could be sandable within 1 hour. Thicker films could be up to 6-8 hours before sandable. 3Mâ„¢ Acryl-Blue Glazing Putty, PN 05964 and 3Mâ„¢ Marine White Putty, PN 05962 . Same formulation, just no blue dye in the marine putty. This is really an overnight putty, any type of film will likely take at least 12 hours to dry. This is meant for larger jobs. 3Mâ„¢ Acryl-Marine Putty -- White (PN 05962) should be used to fill small surface defects such as pinholes and small scratches. Recommended for minor imperfections, which only require a very thin application. Thick application will shrink and crack. This product is not intended to be used by itself and must be covered with marine paint or gel coat. 3Mâ„¢ Acryl-Marine Putty can be used below the waterline only when it is protected by a marine finish that is intended for use below the waterline. 3Mâ„¢ Acryl-Marine Putty should not be used for blister repair. Sincerely Clauzel G. 3M Automotive Aftermarket Division Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spectre711 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Nice to see they are offering both the green and white in smaller tubes. If I remember correctly 3M is changing all of the tube sizes to the smaller 14oz tubes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye's Hobbies Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 If I remember correctly 3M is changing all of the tube sizes to the smaller 14oz tubes. The smaller tubes are more convenient for us, yet also net 3M a better margin. Its we the consumer who pay more for convenience! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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