hemspilot Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Just a "Now Proceeding" with a couple of profile views. It does show the TVC nozzles, but I thought the Su-35 was one of the canard birds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sebastijan Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 that will be interesting to see... the "new" Su-35S is canardless aircraft... Here's one I took at MAKS 2011 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Petarvu Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Just a "Now Proceeding" with a couple of profile views. It does show the TVC nozzles, but I thought the Su-35 was one of the canard birds. Surprising! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mario krijan Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Any pictures??? This year would be crazy for Flanker lovers :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) Certainly very interesting. Difference between Su-35S and Su-27 are fairly big, hopefully they covered the major things that are in bold: Su-35S changes: - New cockpit. Or just new IP, depending how detailed you wanna do it. - Move IRST - New stinger tail with lots of new shapes. - Differences on vertical fins, like bigger rudders. - TVC engines. - New pylons - New front landing gear with two wheels. - Refuel probe. - Lacks airbrake, it is replaced by rudders operating outwards during the landing. - New sensors around the nose. - Lenghtwise Su-35S is the same, but notice different proportions in nose area. Radome is shorter, area between windsheild and radome is longer.(just a matter of rescribing) - Sensor behind the canopy. - "Sharp" nose, with no pitot. - Antennas here and there. - A few new intakes on upper and lower fuselage (engine area) - A few other smaller details. - Smaller ventral fins/stabs. Edited February 3, 2014 by Berkut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mario krijan Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) I only seen poster with projections behind some ship. I didnt clearly see but there were no.canards. It is modern Su-35 not Su-27M. Maybe someone could clarify ? Edited February 2, 2014 by mario krijan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 For heavens sake, someone post the pictures. :D I havent been able to find them atleast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/Ausstellungen/Nuernberg2014/Bilder_AT/Hasegawa_04.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Fantastic, thanks for posting. Seems they have done their homework. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mirage3 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/Ausstellungen/Nuernberg2014/Bilder_AT/Hasegawa_04.htm lol it's true ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mario krijan Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Fantastic, thanks for posting. Seems they have done their homework. :thumbsup:/> :-) We wait for Zvezda Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mirage3 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 :-) We wait for Zvezda :woot.gif:/> I'll take both ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janman Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Brilliant news! And it looks good too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChippyWho Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Fantastic, thanks for posting. Seems they have done their homework. :thumbsup:/> Well, a Berkut approval is enough for me! +1 My thanks also for the information and link, guys. Looks like I'll be 'dieting' again this year... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mizar Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 if they are planning for some special release related to Ace Combat canards and other stuff are needed for the Yellow Squadron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inquisitor Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Certainly very interesting. Difference between Su-35S and Su-27 are fairly big, hopefully they covered the major things that are in bold: - Differences on horizontal fins, like bigger rudders You meant vertical fins, didn't you? Also you forgot no air brake, and some different rivet/panel lines in its place. if they are planning for some special release related to Ace Combat canards and other stuff are needed for the Yellow Squadron Wrong plane for Yellow Squadron which were Su-37s. This one is a production Su-35S which is also very different to the prototypes Su-35s (T-10M) too. And I don't think they'd bother or make the mistake of doing some slap-on canards and shoulders to cater to the niche Su-37, like the old and grossly inaccurate attempt of an Su-33 by Italeri. And even to convert the Su-35S back to a prototype Su-37 you'd need more than canards... there's a lot more differences, like the different shaped tail stinger. All the lumps and bumps added to the Su-35s would need to be removed for an Su-37. Su-37 has taller vertical tails. Also the Su-35S has the airbrake removed, you'd either need to make one for Su-37 or rescribe the panel lines accordingly. And finally since you really hate 'gray' and insist on having something 'Ace Combat' there's Akula's Su-35S with sharkmouth from AC:AH. Edited February 3, 2014 by Inquisitor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 This is great news !!!! Here's one I made earlier....... As Berkut listed (apart from the mistake about horizontal instead of vertical fins) - there are loads of differences - both from the standard Su-27 and the original Su-35. The changes I made to the old Airfix Su-27 to make a Su-35S are shown in my WIP - here. I do wish that Sukhoi would stop messing around with our heads when they designate their products - the original Su-35 (T10M) is a totally different machine to the new Su-35S (T10BM). They have caused no amount of confusion with their re-use of numbers. Still, great news from Hasegawa - lets hope it is a new tool. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
White Wolf Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 if they are planning for some special release related to Ace Combat canards and other stuff are needed for the Yellow Squadron No need for that because Hasegawa has only recently released a special edition of their Su-33 kit with Yellow Squadron decals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 You meant vertical fins, didn't you? Also you forgot no air brake, and some different rivet/panel lines in its place. Dou, vertical of course. And forgot about the airbrake for some reason even tho i knew about it. I didn't bother listing things like panellines, pitots and strengthening plates, i piled them all under "A few other smaller details." Judging by the profile i have slight feeling they gonna recycle Su-33 canopy, but it is not a big deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sarathi S. Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) You meant vertical fins, didn't you? Also you forgot no air brake, and some different rivet/panel lines in its place. Wrong plane for Yellow Squadron which were Su-37s. This one is a production Su-35S which is also very different to the prototypes Su-35s (T-10M) too. And I don't think they'd bother or make the mistake of doing some slap-on canards and shoulders to cater to the niche Su-37, like the old and grossly inaccurate attempt of an Su-33 by Italeri. And even to convert the Su-35S back to a prototype Su-37 you'd need more than canards... there's a lot more differences, like the different shaped tail stinger. All the lumps and bumps added to the Su-35s would need to be removed for an Su-37. Su-37 has taller vertical tails. Also the Su-35S has the airbrake removed, you'd either need to make one for Su-37 or rescribe the panel lines accordingly. And finally since you really hate 'gray' and insist on having something 'Ace Combat' there's Akula's Su-35S with sharkmouth from AC:AH. I will bet money that they will release an Akula Su-35S, considering that Namdai LOVES selling merch from ACAH. I just wish the production run for the Yellow 13 Su-33 had been longer... @White Wolf: They recently released it, but good luck finding any anywhere. I think they sold out everywhere within a week. Edited February 3, 2014 by Sarathi S. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Judging by the profile i have slight feeling they gonna recycle Su-33 canopy, but it is not a big deal. Steady Berkut......... you are mellowing in your old age...... Next you'll be saying that the LERX on the Trumpeter Flankers is ..........OK Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mizar Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Wrong plane for Yellow Squadron which were Su-37s. This one is a production Su-35S which is also very different to the prototypes Su-35s (T-10M) too. And I don't think they'd bother or make the mistake of doing some slap-on canards and shoulders to cater to the niche Su-37, like the old and grossly inaccurate attempt of an Su-33 by Italeri. And even to convert the Su-35S back to a prototype Su-37 you'd need more than canards... there's a lot more differences, like the different shaped tail stinger. All the lumps and bumps added to the Su-35s would need to be removed for an Su-37. Su-37 has taller vertical tails. Also the Su-35S has the airbrake removed, you'd either need to make one for Su-37 or rescribe the panel lines accordingly. And finally since you really hate 'gray' and insist on having something 'Ace Combat' there's Akula's Su-35S with sharkmouth from AC:AH. I know the differences,that why I writed "canards and other stuff",sorry if I did hurt the gray-hammer legion squadron's feelings,you should have ignored me at least,without pointing my hate for the gray here,I don't like Akula Flanker anyway sharkmouth is just out of place,I just need a couple of Super Flankers one for Ace Combat 2 and for Ace Combat 3 that's is kinda gray but I don't care. I do have said for the Yellow Squadron as Hasegawa have released the Su-33 with those markings,sadly in the game was as a DLC or in a way to milk people's money with a reskin Edited February 3, 2014 by Mizar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Steady Berkut......... you are mellowing in your old age...... :rolleyes:/> Next you'll be saying that the LERX on the Trumpeter Flankers is ..........OK :whistle:/> Ken Hehe. It is easy to fix Su-33 canopy profile with right tools, took me like half an hour. And no, LERX on Trump flankers is still bad! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beingthehero Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 This is great news !!!! Here's one I made earlier....... Haha, just a few days ago I read your article and wished to myself that a model company would make a kit of the newer Su-35 (I definitely do not have your skills or dedication when it comes to modelling the different Flanker variants). Looks like I got my wish! Between this and Zvezda's new Su-27SM and MiG-29C, 2014 is going to be a very happy year for those who love Russian aircraft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Indeed. And on top of that MiG-31 and Su-33 in 1/48 scales. Plus a lot of other goodies of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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